[The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM
To: [Custodial dad email] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
Hi, [Custodial Dad].
Please provide the ONLY contact number(s) which I may use to reach you.
You have provided a home and mobile number.
Apologies for all miscommunications & misunderstandings which are evident from your message below.
I work with hope that we will all have the best outcome for [daughter] and you.
Called you at home as you indicated that as a contact number.
Only call once to reach you.
I do not call to speak to [spelled incorrectly Step Mother], though she inquires as to why I am calling; This is no problem for me.
However, let us be clear. Shall we?
Be sure that any calls are specifically to reach you for [daughter]
or for clarifications to facilitate arrangements for your contact with [daughter].
Thank you for your kind consideration and attention.
enjoy your time with [daughter] at 4PM. :)
God Bless.
[The Ex] [last name]
[XXX].[XXX].4665
From: [Custodial dad email] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
To: [The Ex] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:00:21 AM
Subject: Re: [The Ex]’s Clarifications Re: the package
Subject: Re: [The Ex]’s Clarifications Re: the package
[The Ex];
You do not get to call me a pervert and withhold [daughter] from me and then expect me to be all sunshine and flowers. I am trying my best to be to the point and amicable; however, if you take my tone as hostile, then maybe we
need to have the attorneys discuss these matters between them.
Mediation precludes redundancy when compliance is met. You have
failed compliance at EVERY turn and my attorney will address that
directly.
Your claims towards “historically” un-peaceful messages leave not far
from your own inbox and telephone conversations. Per my own recollection, I have barely stated two words to your attorney however, your characterization of her leads me to wonder why you chose to hire her.
I would appreciate if we just do what is required of us and not nit-pick the details as indicated in my last two messages. Further,it is not necessary to consistently call my home to speak with [Step Mother] specifically when you can readily assume that I am not there.
X
From: [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Date: November 19, 2008 8:06:05 AM EST
To: [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
Subject: Re: [The Ex]’s Clarifications Re: the package
Hi, [Custodial Dad].
I will bear all costs in my last email, as I clearly stated.
You want original photos and originals of [daughter]’s work.
You got it. I’ll send them.
Mediation agreement precludes need for redundancy on all addressed issues.
Kindly modify the tone and approach in your messages to me.
[Custodial Dad], work with me to foster amicable communication, please.
I believe you can try to write me without the condescension and hostility displayed below.
I make an effort to be professional and respectful to you.
My assertion of intolerance for messages historically devoid of peace and
statements wroth with animosity is long overdue.
Additionally, I have seen this behavior consistently in your communication with Attorney [last name].
Please take notice and let’s change this pattern for long term success for [daughter].
Thanks for your kind consideration. enjoy your packages of [daughter]’s work. :)
From: [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
To: [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Cc: [Custodial Dad’s other state lawyer] <[Custodial Dad’s other state lawyer]@[Custodial Dad's Law Firm]>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [The Ex]’s Clarifications Re: the package
[The Ex];
In assumed you would be utilizing the pre-paid box I sent to you MONTHS ago. That is a pre-existing fulfillment of my agreement in mediation. I will, once again, send you pre-paid envelopes. However, the pre-paid box is simply sitting there unused and I assumed I would have receive that initially.
You are correct, the order does not state color copies as it is indicative that ORIGINALS be sent. Send originals and that will reduce your expense especially since I am supplying the mailing supplies.
I expected past report cards as well as current. I also expect photos and not photocopies of pictures.
Post cards are forthcoming - her siblings and I mailed some already.
I do not want nor need a scrapbook. I want the items as promised. As [Step Mother] has stated to you, she is a published “scrapper” and will be happy to create one for our family.
You are under the impression that I am made of money. I have expenses just like you do, however I am not relying on anyone but myself to pay for my expenses, legal fees or to take care of my children.
I have already sent notice to my attorney. I have no interest in playing this tit-for-tat games with you and will let him handle this as well as your non-compliance with [webcam software] and telephone calls. If you want to save fees, do what you agree to. You can not have it both ways.
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:44 AM, [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com> wrote:
Hi, [Custodial Dad].
FYI: This email is to serve as clarification, NOT confrontation.
I understand that in custody cases all can seem adversarial.
PLEASE understand that I am writing to give my perspective
and state my understanding of your needs and my responsibilities.
Most importantly, however,
I would like to facillitate your relationship with [daughter] through all aspects, inclusive of these mailings.
I hope you can be more helpful to me by correcting any views which I expressed below so I may best meet your wishes and expectations of the mediation agreement.
(FYI: I have not recieved any post cards as agreed to in mediation.
I am awaiting two from last week. I will update when I get them. :) [daughter] will surely love your mail!)
Thanks for your kind consideration.
Clarification of Mailing Issue:
1. Sent you the required mailings, as per our agreement. November mailing is fulfilled.
It is the 17th. Over an above requirement in agreement, will send other work by Wednesday, exclusive of [daughter]’s scrapbook.
RE: Mediation agreement: I fulfilled the “at minimum, once monthly” requirement. However, I am not limiting [daughter]’s mailings to you to once monthly. I will get more to you- most likely weekly. You have one already. You will have the other by week’s end. Let’s be kind, please, and avoid attorney fees with cc’s for email reviews.
1.Copy fees are an additional expense for color and I would be glad for you to see her color choices in her work.
RE: Mediation agreement: I fulfilled getting [daughter]’s work to you.
Though there is no requirement for colored copies, I am happy to have colored copies made. Please let me know if you are able to send a copy card with any funds for Staples so I may best meet your additional request, post mediation agreement.
I am happy to share the costs.
Any amount will be appreciated. Otherwise I will send as I can best afford.
HERE is the phone number of the STAPLES so you may determine the prices:
STAPLES Phone: [XXX]. [XXX].2899 / FAx is [XXX].[XXX].4668.
I can even pick up a copy card there or copy colored copies off an account you may have an option to set up.
BE SURE, THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT for YOU TO ANY FOR COLORED COPIES.
I AM WILLING TO TAKE ON THE COSTS FOR COLOR COPIES ON MY OWN.
I’m sure you will enjoy her beautiful work.
3. Your prepaid box is here and being filled regullarly. I can use that to send your colored copies this week if you’d like. Or I can keep for scrapbook mailing upon your request and arrangements via email. Please let me know.
Re: Mediation agreement: You were to supply self-addressed, stamped envelopes.
I not only paid for all copies, but I paid for postage.
Though you did not fulfill your agreement to provide the necessary mailing supplies,
I remained compliant with sending you [daughter]’s work in a timely manner- in early November.
I was happy to do so and I am glad to know that you have received the mailing.
4. Report card can only be available to me when the school issues. I have it to send this week. You will get it before end of week.
Photos will be sent in the next mailing. I am sure you will enjoy the variety of photos.
Sorry that your phone could not recieve the phone mailed photos as I took pictures of [daughter] in the past at various outings and school events. But, hardcopies via mail should be a good way to make sure you have pics of our little [daughter].
Re: Mediation agreement: I am currently still in compliance since Novemenber is not yet up. There is no agreement that I should provide you a scrapbook of [daughter]’s time.
However, if you would like a scrapbook that I have already prepared with
your photos of her siblings and Ms. [spelled incorrectly Step Mother] you have sent via e-mail,
of pictures we have taken here with her gifts sent to [spelled incorrectly Step Mother] on mother’s day,
pictures from my previous [last name] in-laws and nieces/ nephews which I have gotten over the years here in [other state],
and of all other phone photos I have sent you through the years,
I would be happy to make a copy of the pages.
Again, please let me know if your are interested in splitting the costs to supply a scrapbook for [daughter]’s [home state] family.
REINFORCED CLARIFICATION RE: COSTS for all copies:
1. REQUEST FOR YOU TO CONTRIBUTE ARE NOT REQUIRED BY ME.
2. I WILL [home state]Y FOR ALL AND SEND BY END OF NOVEMBER.
3. HOPE YOU MAY SHARE WITH ALL [LAST NAME] FAMILY THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.
Kindly Regards,
[The Ex] [last name]
[XXX].[XXX].4665
NOTE: END OF [THE EX]’S RESPONSE TO FH DISCONTENT OF MAILINGS ON NM’S WORK.
From: [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
To: [The Ex] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Cc: [Custodial Dad’s other state lawyer] <[Custodial Dad’s other state lawyer]@[Custodial Dad's Law Firm]>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:20:01 PM
Subject: the package
[The Ex];
I received the “package” which I assume is your attempt at compliance with the Mediated order we both agreed to on October 29, 2008.
The contents were—
a. hastily thrown together;
b. photo copied sloppily and in black and white—despite the obvious color of the originals;
C. curiously missing her report cards and photos and;
d. not utilizing the ample sized package that I had previously paid for and sent with my last package.
I will state my obvious disappointment. You have promised me pictures, art work and report cards since March stating you were “compiling a package.” The package I received contained seven (7) sheets, I can assure you that this is not what I/we agreed to nor what you have alluded to in no less than ten email messages. The most clear and concise message was on May 25th where you clearly stated, “You will have school work, photos and report cards all in one beautiful keepsake book. Waiting for the last set of shots to be developed... let me know if you just want what I have so far... I can always make other books with photos of you all in them.”
I will again, defer this to [Custodial Dad’s other state lawyer] so that he may note this and discuss your obvious lack of compliance with [Ex’s first other state lawyer], yet again. Do note that it has already been four weeks since the order and you have failed at every juncture to hold up your end of the bargain consistently. You know, this would be cheaper if you simply did the right thing instead of constantly needing attorney interference.
My children and I are sending [daughter] post cards, I do hope at the very least you are allowing [daughter] to actually receive them. I will look forward to seeing [daughter] on [webcam software] on Sunday. Please, please ensure that it is up and running prior to the 7:15 start time
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[Custodial Dad] X [last name]
[XXX]-[xxx]-0185
[Custodial dad email]@[email].com
~ Time is that quality of nature which keeps events from happening all at once. Lately it doesn’t seem to be working.
* Anonymous ~
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[Custodial Dad] X [last name]
[XXX]-[xxx]-0185
[Custodial dad email]@[email].com
~ Time is that quality of nature which keeps events from happening all at once. Lately it doesn’t seem to be working.
* Anonymous ~
[Custodial Dad] and [Step Mother] [last name] <[Custodial Dad’s home email]@[email].com>
Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:49 PM
To: [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>, [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
[The Ex];
[Custodial Dad] forwarded me your letter since the request was made through [Custodial Dad] by me.
To be clear, you are calling during work days when you can reasonably assume he is at work without waiting for a reasonable time for a call back and when you can reasonably assume he is traveling. With the timing of your calls, you know that it is me that you are reaching. Calling my home at 8 am on a day that you can reasonably assume [Custodial Dad] is in [other state] indicates your want to reach me. Calling in the middle of a work day when you can reasonably assume he is at work indicates your want to reach me.
Understand that my husband is busy and you do not have a better chance at reaching him by calling our home and cell lines several times within minutes of each other. Voice mail (on one line) does and will suffice as he is never very far from his cell phone and will always answer when he is scheduled to speak with [daughter].
I have never minded speaking with you on the telephone, however as of late you have been particularly rude when speaking with me:
You talk over me;
Ask questions without waiting for an answer;
Hang up on me mid-sentence no less than four out of the five times I have spoken with you directly in the last few weeks.
I hope that I do not need to say this but [daughter] is always welcomed to call the house at anytime and for any reason as it is her house as well as it is mine... My insistence that you refrain from doing so is when a reasonable person would assume he is not at home or when you fail to wait ample time for a return call on non urgent matters unless it is that you need to speak with me. I have no desire to cause strife but I also have no desire to be disrespected in my own home. You are welcomed to call our home, however mind your manners when you do so or stick to using [Custodial Dad]’s cell phone.
[Step Mother] [last name]
[Custodial Dad] & [Step Mother]
.[sibling].[daughter].[sibling].[sibling].[sibling].
The [last name] [last name]s
Our wedding was many years ago. The celebration continues to this day. ~Gene Perret
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[Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:02 PM
To: [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Bcc: Wife <[Step Mother’s email]@[email].com>
[The Ex]
You have any contact numbers I utilize (i.e. home, cell) there are no other numbers you need.
The miscommunication/misunderstandings are yours only, as an example; you knew I was coming for an appointment in [other state] this day so why would you call my home line at 8am.
For Clarification:
[daughter] may call ANY line ANY time 24 hours a day. YOU may call within reasonable time frames for reasonable reasons and please be patient while awaiting a response to your voice message(s).
X
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[The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:28 AM
To: [Custodial Dad] and [Step Mother] [last name] <[Custodial Dad’s home email]@[email].com>, [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
Cc: [Ex’s first other state lawyer]@[email].com
Please, deffer issue of contact times and contact number(s) in writing through attorneys.
Thanks.
Kindly, [The Ex]
From: [Custodial Dad] and [Step Mother] [last name] <[Custodial Dad’s home email]@[email].com>
To: [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>; [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:49:06 PM
Subject: Re: Contact Number for [Custodial Dad] [last name]
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[Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com> Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:52 AM
To: [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>
Cc: [Custodial Dad] and [Step Mother] [last name] <[Custodial Dad’s home email]@[email].com>, [Ex’s first other state lawyer]@[email].com
[The Ex]
You again choose to speak OVER me this morning and NOT with me as co-parents should talk to one another.
I had no idea what the subject regards the call was initially as you did not let me speak.
I was asking for clarification when you said “Shrimp Shack” and hung up.
As to your vague response here regards phone calls:
This is less an issue regards times and what phone numbers to use, then it is about being reasonable about times to call, reasons for YOU to call and amount of calls, along with simple adult to adult respect
Again, I state [daughter] may call literally A[other state]TIME.
X
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[Custodial Dad] and [Step Mother] [last name] <[Custodial Dad’s home email]@[email].com> Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:53 AM
To: [The Ex] [last name] <[the ex email]@[email].com>, [Custodial Dad] [last name] <[Custodial dad email]@[email].com>
[The Ex];
Maybe I wasn’t clear:
If you choose to you our home line, please us proper telephone etiquette when doing so. If you can not, please use [Custodial Dad]’s cell phone for non-urgent matters.
Thank you!
[Step Mother]
[Custodial Dad] & [Step Mother]
.[sibling].[daughter].[sibling].[sibling].[sibling].
The [last name] [last name]s
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